Click on the cover page for the PDF file
This was shared with all of us by Tony Guarcello, who noted:
"Back in 1966 I made my way to Travis Air Force Base where for the next 7 years had the great privilege of working with the C-141."
Got this note from a former firefighter who responded to the crash of 67-0006 in the UK on 28 Aug 1976.
I came across your site whilst I was looking for any information regarding the above crash.
I wondered if the following might be of some interest to you.
That August bank holiday weekend, I was on duty with the rest of the members of White Watch at Dogsthorpe Fire Station in Peterborough, Cambridgeshire. I was on kitchen duties that day and we had finished the main meal and I was about to serve up the pudding when we got a call to an aircraft in flames on the outskirts of Thorney.
I had only been in the service for just over 3 years ,but I had passed my Heavy Goods Vehicle driving test and was driving the Water Tender Ladder that day. A colleague,of many more years experience than me, was driving the Emergency Tender. I felt all the way there that I didn't want to hold him up.
The drive to Thorney, some 9 miles or so, seemed to take forever, especially in the wet conditions. But we got there and I'll never forget the sight that met us.
The tail section of the aircraft was lying in a field at the side of the approach road, the Emergency Tender crew were detailed to check for radioactive substances in the tail. I proceeded as far as I could into the field containing the main wreckage, which had a crop of sugar beet in it, before we became bogged down in the wet muddy conditions.
From then on it was just a matter of carrying everything we needed from the appliances as best we could. As I remember, all the attending appliances got bogged down, some nearer than others to the actual incident.
After searching the site it became obvious that there would be no survivors and the image that I will always have with me is the view inside of what remained of the flight deck, with members of the crew inside.
I'll never forget that.
After some hours the fire crews arrived from Mildenhall airbase, and we then prepared to leave, but that proved to be a problem as we were all stuck in the mud. We had to get a farmer to help to tow us all out onto solid ground using his tractor.
The atmosphere on the watch was very subdued for a while after that. It was a terrible tragedy, and although I'm retired now and living 60 miles from Peterborough, whenever I travel back that way, through Thorney, I always remember the events of that day.
Nigel Lettice (retired firefighter)
Here's a couple of photos of Nigel from back in the glory days.
Thanks goes to sharp-eyed C141Heaven visitor Frank Correa for finding this:
A month or so ago we started a quest to find a relative of Frank Eve, an 8th MAS pilot who was killed in the C-141 that crashed in the Olympic mountains northwest of McChord AFB in March, 1975. A hiker in the area had located an ID tag years after the crash and had turned it in to the Parks Service who subsequently made an attempt to interest the AF in returning the tag to Frank's family. Due to the passage of so many years and so much time it seemed they (the AF) just didn't want to spend the needed time or effort to locate someone.
That didn't seem right to me so I posted a note here on C141Heaven about the tag and asked everyone for help in locating a member of Frank's family. This was not an easy task ... but Lee Corbin managed to locate Frank's wife, who has since remarried. I communicated with her regarding the people at the Parks Service who actually have the tag and will be sending it to her this week.
It was a cold March night that I waited for him to come home. As usual they were late so I went to bed only to be awakened around 2-3am with a knock at our door. I was told that the plane was missing and my only thoughts were of the vast ocean, and the fact that he had just returned from water survival training...so he would be ok, just a matter of daylight..
Thanks to everyone who helped on this project. It's too bad the AF couldn't do the right thing years ago.
Read the latest T-Tail Tall-Tale, T-Tail Gusyer by George Levanduski.
While digging around in Google's news archives ...
Does the DoD know the C141 was removed from service in 2006? Evidently not.
It's truly amazing how poor the quality of these productions (both video and sound) are, considering some of them are only 20-30 years old!
USAF Collateral Investigation Report can viewed at this link.
Thanks to Les Crosby ...
Here's the latest on the Frank Eve ID Tag story. After posting here and on several Facebook groups (C141, 8th MAS and others) I got a flurry of responses and assistance. Several of them were from folks with access to Ancestry.com services and thus far we've uncovered these things:
Frank A Eve is buried at Rockford Cemetery, Rockford Coosa County, Alabama. Seethis link. I contacted the person who posted this info on the page and he is not related to Frank Eve. He updated the page with information about the crash and our quest to locate a family member.
There was also a link to a person who left 'virtual flowers' on the page. I've her sent an email asking if she has any knowledge of family relationships.
Someone has noted from Ancestry.com that Frank was born in Virginia.
Mother's maiden name was Newcumber. He lived in Kent (north of McChord).
Contacted the McChord AFB chaplain's office who offer no help but referred me to the base historian's office. A voice mail message said to send him an email, but then didn't it leave an email address to send it to and of course there is nothing on the public McChord web site with email addresses. (Nobody seems to know how to use voice mail these days!) So I left a voice message with my phone # and my email address. Time will tell if anything comes of this.
Sometimes the top is the best place to start so I've sent a letter to the 62nd AW commander with details.
Sent emails to the 62nd PA office and to the AMC PA office. No response yet.
Sent another note to the TNT (Tacoma News Tribune) "news tips" folks to see if they can shake anything loose at McChord or from the AF.
All this has happened in just a couple of days, so I'm hopeful we'll make headway on this before too long. Thanks to everyone who's helped so far ... Let's keep up the quest until we succeed!
Tuesday, March 20, 2012 06:20 pm
Olympic Mountains Crash
A bunch of emails have gone back and forth recently related to the crash of 64-0641 in the Olympic Mountains near McChord in March 1975. Years later, in 1987, an unidentified mountain climber found a set of dog-tags and turned them in to the local forest service office in the Olympic National Park. Representatives of the forest service and the mountain rescue folks contacted McChord to try and return the tag but were basically given the brush off. The tag remains under the care of the Olympic National Park museum to this very day.
The image of the tag above is very difficult to see, but the tags belonged to pilot Frank Eve. I'm starting a quest to locate one of his family members to see if they would like to have the tags after all these years. Anyone who might know where we can find one or more them please contact me and we'll try and get this ball rolling.
Sunday, March 18, 2012 02:21 pm
Nice Shot of 64-0645
Richard Fillhart, a former maintenance officer mailed in a few shots of some of the aircraft he was involved with back in the 70's. Here's a very nice one of 64-0645.
© 1971 Richard Fillhart This was January 1971 @ Hill AFB, UTAH
This one is from a REFORGER mission in January 1969. Tail number as 65-0273 ... flown by a KCHS crew. Taken at Spangdahlem, Germany. The VIP is General Howell M Estes... Commander of MAC.
© 1969 Richard Fillhart -- January 1969 @ Spandahlem AB, Germany
Sunday, March 18, 2012 02:21 pm
67-0006 Crash Info - Flight Data Recorder
Four shots of the Flight Data Recorder from 67-006. There was not too much recoverable information from this device.
Friday, February 3, 2012 02:47 pm
67-0006 Crash Info
I was recently sent about 500+ pages of material on the crash of 67-0006 (see post below). It is a huge amount of material and I'm going through it now to determine what might be suitable for posting here on C-141 Heaven.
Here's a shot of the Mildenhal weather radar, taken about 45 minutes after the accident. The heavy thunderstorms in the area and track of the aircraft (and its end point) are shown via the white line to the left side.
Friday, February 3, 2012 12:17 pm
The memorial for 67-0006, which crashed in a huge thunderstorm just outside of Mildenhall in August 1976 was given a face-lift last month.
Saturday, January 28, 2012 06:23 pm
Andrew Pollock found these pics from his time at Norton and sent them to me for scanning and posting here on C141Heaven.
These first few are of a honeycomb delamination repair job on the underside of the T-Tail of 60177 that he and another guy were assigned to do. He had the outstanding foresight to take along a camera and snap some shots from an angle most of us never had a chance to see.
These next pics are from a base-guide distributed to all new Norton personnel, probably by the housing office or some similar entity.
Saturday, January 28, 2012 05:58 pm
Bill Watkins found an old copy of American Aviation on eBay and sent me a couple of photos (cover and a Lockheed ad) from before the first flight of the C141 in December of 1963. At that time Lockheed still held out the hope that the C-141 would be sold to a wide civilian market.
Saturday, January 28, 2012 05:38 pm
It has nothing to do with the C-141 but it's a very well done video and worth watching if you like aviation in WWII!
If you don't haven't spend much time on VIMEO they have a wide variety of fantastic videos of all types. It easy to waste hours there if you have no sense of time.
Written & Directed by Nick Ryan
Starring Toby Kebbell and Christian Brassington
10 minute short film
A British fighter pilot pursues the German ace that shot down his friend across sky and country... with murder in mind. But he discovers it's not so easy to kill a man when you have to look them in the eye
This was funded by an Irish Film Board scheme called 'Short Cuts' and was shot in November 2007. The Budget was €70K, and was used entirely on the live action components of the film - leaving a grand total of ZERO for visual effects!
The film's creator completed all the visual effects shots, over 120 in total, entirely by myself. Dave Head modelled the aircraft (and truck), but I textured, lit, animated and composited the shots over a six month period in 2008.
Saturday, January 28, 2012 05:13 pm
My last request last year was on behalf of someone working on a book about Medivac operations and he needed a bit of info about the crew latrine for some reason. Something to with possibly seeing someone try to plant a bomb in one during the evacuation of orphans from Tan Son Nhut in the last days of our adventures there.
I asked, and you responded with these stunning images:
It's enough to make you want to take a little trip on a C-141!